Macromedia Contribute - create framesets?

[BigNick]

I am able to edit the contents of different frames within a page. However I am creating a new different site, and can't create a frame. The Help facility built in and also on line give all thats needed to edit frames but not create them.

I am guessing I have to import a frameset from Dreamweaver somehow, but as I dont have it working that's kind of difficult.

All help gratefully received

[TheFatControlleR]

Contribute is, as the name suggests, merely a means to allow folk to 'contribute' to a web site - adding and editing content to designated pages, etc. It is not a web creation/building tool, per se, and will not allow you to edit the fundamental elements of a web page.

[BigNick]

Thanks, that explains a lot !!!

Can I use anything other than DW to create pages which Contribute can modify?

[TheFatControlleR]

Yes, one can edit/create pages with whatever application one wishes as long as you're the webmaster with site-wide access (in terms of being a Contribute user, as opposed to a limited account/keyholder), then any new pages will be available to you - as long as they are actually live, linked and accessible via the sites navigation.

Using Dreamweaver just integrates the process a little more.

Unfortunately although I have Contribute CS4 somewhere I haven't actually used it since v1.0, so I'm not too au fait with it's current MO - though I suspect it hasn't changed too much. But, if you do get stuck post again and I'll find it and fire it up and see what we can do.

[BigNick]

Thanks again, I am the webmaster as far as access is concerned, so have full access to all the pages, as well as the ability to create new ones. It's just that I can't create a frame.

Sorry for being thick - I don't know what you mean by 'whatever app one wishes'

I can create a table on the first page, with links down the left hand column, to make it look like a frame but then Contribute won't let me create a new page as a Copy, only a blank new page.

EDIT: Having just looked here http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutorials/html/framesets I think I will pass on framesets altogether !!

[TheFatControlleR]

Sorry, I meant 'application'. My bad.

Good move; frames have been pretty much discredited and redundant for some years now. They're not particularity SEO-friendly (Search Engine Optimisation) and can be a pain to deal with any way. however, occasional use of iFrames can be justified, IMO.

Do you have full access to your site via FTP, or are you using an online site builder? Is your domain PHP enabled?

The reason I ask is it may be worth considering the use of basic tables for layout and 'PHP includes' for global elements such as navigation, headers, footers.

This means, for instance with a side-bar navigation tree, you create one set of navigation links (saved separately as an HTML file), insert that file into a table cell at the side of the page using a simple PHP command. The sites pages would have to be saved with the .PHP extension, but otherwise you would treat them the same as HTML pages where coding/design, layout, content are concerned.

Doing this means you only need to change one file (the navigation HTML file in the above example) for all the instances of that navigation to be updated globally.

Just a thought.

[BigNick]

Great, that sounds a better approach - I will give it a go but will need to pursue the PHP option first.

I understood apps=applications but couldnt understand how I could use just about any one I wished - My bad grammar, that time !

will report back later in the week on progress.