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dangermouse75
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Everytime I read stories like this one- 'Internet pirates to be cut off from July 2011' , I feel deja vu.
They've been going on about it for months.
When will someone actually get their Internet connection cut off?
There is no doubt that the music industry is being damaged by piracy.
It seems a long time ago since we had a vibrant music scene in this country.
The last great time for British Pop was probably the early 80s with bands likes Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran, The Human League etc.
It seemed to go downhill from about 1985 onwards! This was long before the Internet.
If we had a magic wand and removed piracy, would we get back these golden times?
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CCUP
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There will always be ways of getting "illegal music" on the internet........ 
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Doublell
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If piracy could be stopped overnight do record firms really think that sales will suddenly rocket up? If so they are living in cloud cuckoo land. The days when they could make large profits by overcharging for LPs and CDs has all but disappeared. I don't think that stopping downloading via P2P is the answer either. Music tracks can easily be downloaded from sites like YouTube. Record firms have to come up with a business model that lets people download high quality music at a price they are prepared to pay. Something like stack them high and sell them cheap. Me - I'll stick to buy from SecondSpin.com
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wildthing666
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If you look at music download sites they charge what? 79p for 1 song, that is with no case artwork or anything but reduce the rate for a full album download the same single song will cost £3.99 in a shop buying a physical CD.
It isn't illegal downloading that is killing the music industry it is the industry itself releasing the album/single to the radio stations something like 2 months before it can be bought in the shops, people may be fed up with it just as they may get fed up with it if they owned a copy, it gets played less & less, so when it is released in the shops people are in no rush to go out and buy it, unlike an artist who has had little or no air play.
As for British artists there are plenty doing well if you like hard rock, classic rock like, def leopard, saxon, motorhead to name a few.
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dangermouse75
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File sharers buy more music legally than non file sharers according to this survey by the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8337887.stm
It certainly fits for me. I don't file share, but I don't buy much music either - probably around £40 a year.
Most of the music I listen to is on Youtube, TV Music Channels, Radio or on sites like We7.
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bricat
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I wonder how much Meddlesome got as a backhander to come up with this idea 
he doesn't do anything unless there is something in it for him.
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dangermouse75
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I read somewhere that if the Tories get in at the next election they would block this legislation.
I don't think they will though. It sounds like the kind of policy they would back- they like to support private enterprise.
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MugsMoney
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Is it actually feasible?
What if I was caught file sharing???
Should my family be denied internet access because of my actions?
If I got caught stealing CDs from HMV, it would be me who got fined/prison/etc...
How could they possibly punish a whole family for the actions of 1 person?
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dangermouse75
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It is sure going to cause some rows up and down the country..
"So we got this letter arrive today. They are claiming our Internet Connection is being used for filesharing. Own up then, who's the guilty party?"
"It's the next door neighbours. They hacked our connection.. honest!"
Will be interesting for people house sharing such as student houses, if one person causes the rest to lose their Internet connection.
Will make a change from the usual squabbles over stolen food from the fridge.
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Doublell
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The whole matter will turn into a bureaucratic farce. The minute an ISP contacts a customer about alleged file sharing a guilty customer will jump ship and transfer to another ISP.
How will ISPs or the government stop people filesharing via from the likes of YouTube?
Record companies behaving like King Canute, and fighting rear guard actions against potential customers, will not save them. They did to provide a quality product at a price customers are prepared to pay.
Round and rounds it goes - where it will end nobody knows.
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Doublell
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Correction:
The last sentence in the penultimate paragraph should read - They need to provide a quality product at a price customers are prepared to pay.
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dangermouse75
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Looks like the EU could be the saviour for people accused of filesharing.
"..will entitle users in all 27 EU states to be put through a "fair and impartial procedure" before being disconnected."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8344174.stm
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