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Please test new feature of site optimiser
      #43357 - Sun Feb 15 2004 09:35 AM

Please can you test the new feature of my website optimiser tool?

http://optimiser.123promotion.co.uk

The new version gives a percentage rating for each page that is ran through the optimiser and you can print out a certificate of your result ( this is purely for fun so dont criticise me - i know the certificate feature is naff ! )

I would be grateful for any feedback.


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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: 123promotion]
      #43415 - Sun Feb 15 2004 03:58 PM

Well I've just given your optimiser a damn good workout.

I noticed that my watercolour site had slipped off the first page of Google and decided to put this right. I knew I needed to do some work on it and just kept putting it off because there was so much else I had to get done on other things.

Any way I've made my changes and tested it with your optimiser. It scored 95% which I think is a pretty accurate assessment. Where it does drop points is that some images haven't got ALT tags, but this is just the navigation bar at the top of the page. The are text links at the bottom of each page so this base is covered.

Didn't notice much difference to your optimiser page from before, but I understand that most of your changes are in the background.

When I get chance I will go all through your site and give you my verdict and comments.

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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: Jonny555]
      #43418 - Sun Feb 15 2004 04:05 PM

Thanks Johnny

Yes, most of the changes are behind the scenes - the score was to give people an initial assessment, thats all. Some people dont like it if their site acheives a low ranking - expected i suppose.


One thing about alt tags - the most important images are the first 3 - so even if this is just your nav bar, it is important to get them in - even if the image is a background to a table etc.

thanks for the feedback :)
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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: 123promotion]
      #43420 - Sun Feb 15 2004 04:17 PM

The first three images on my watercolour site are the logo ones. To speed up page loading the logo is split into 3 separate images and all these have alt tags. In fact every image on the site does except for the nav bar.

Even with dropping down the rankings a little, which won't be for long, it hasn't hurt our visitor numbers. In fact the number of visitors is steadily rising all the time and we now have members from all corners of the globe. All members are actively encouraged to advertise the site where ever they can and this they do.

The percentage score I think is a very good idea because people will be more determined to make an effort in improving there source code. It's that competitive streak in us all.

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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: Jonny555]
      #43421 - Sun Feb 15 2004 04:37 PM

Another feature has just been added also which shows whether a site has a favicon icon or not.

A small item, but can help you to get people to remember and bookmark your site.
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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: 123promotion]
      #43426 - Sun Feb 15 2004 05:07 PM

A favicon is a nice thing to have against the address of a site in your favourites folder. It also helps to make the site a little more professional.

I've used favicons for a long time now and always recommend them.

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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: Jonny555]
      #43427 - Sun Feb 15 2004 05:09 PM

you can of course use the online favicon creator on my site to make one :)
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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: 123promotion]
      #43435 - Sun Feb 15 2004 05:46 PM

Results are inaccurate. I tested it on a clean page - no ads, no interference from inserted scripting, etc.

1. "No favicon"? Wrong, there is one, and its presence is reinforced by the appropriate meta tag so the page declares it, so why didn't you spot it? And yes, it is a true icon, it was created with real icon software, not some online service.

2. "Page contains javascript or vbscipt"? Wrong. I never use vbscript as it is too dangerous so many have it disabled. I also don't use javascript on this particular mini site either, just pure clean HTML.

3. "H1 Tag is not used or not in 'clean' format (ie < H1 >). It is very important to do so". Wrong. The page is set using a style sheet, so such tags are not necessary if the job is done right.

About the only thing you got right is that you accepted all my links are sound. My pages were validated against W3C standards before uploading, and they are fully compliant. I think your "Professional Optimisation Company" needs to review its testing procedures, as it is getting things wrong.

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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: safeTsurfa]
      #43438 - Sun Feb 15 2004 06:16 PM

Ok

Please give an example of the page you checked and i will clarify the results

i am asking for people to test this - i am not saying this is the be all and end all.

Please give the example you used so that i can see what you are saying is true

Please also clarify why our online favicon script does not create a favicon.ico file as good as any other tool or software - i am interested in your reply.

If this is indeed for your geocities site.... there is javascript in the page

H1 tags are extremely important whether used in a stylesheet or not. If you dont have a H1 tag in native form (pure html - <H1>text</H1>, then this is not the best use of it.

That is our opinion - thats all - if you dont agree then this is fair enough.

thanks


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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: 123promotion]
      #43443 - Sun Feb 15 2004 06:28 PM

I deliberately did not use the Geocities page, as Yahoo injects special code into them as they are uploaded. The tested site is here. H1 tags are only appropriate where they are needed, not an absolute requirement. My site does not need them as they are inappropriate to the design.

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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: safeTsurfa]
      #43444 - Sun Feb 15 2004 06:30 PM

H1 tags are EXTREMELY important


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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: 123promotion]
      #43731 - Tue Feb 17 2004 01:44 AM

Oooh! Deeply hurt, I only got 50%. The tears are falling into my ke..boa........r..d
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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: safeTsurfa]
      #44542 - Fri Feb 20 2004 11:00 PM

In reply to:

1. "No favicon"? Wrong, there is one, and its presence is reinforced by the appropriate meta tag so the page declares it, so why didn't you spot it? And yes, it is a true icon, it was created with real icon software, not some online service.



<link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />

Your declaration of the favicon is strange, most don't use the type attribute, not too sure which way to go on that.


In reply to:

2. "Page contains javascript or vbscipt"? Wrong. I never use vbscript as it is too dangerous so many have it disabled. I also don't use javascript on this particular mini site either, just pure clean HTML.



<script src="http://www.virgin.net/js/random_ad.js" language="javascript"></script>

What's that then?

In reply to:

3. "H1 Tag is not used or not in 'clean' format (ie < H1 >). It is very important to do so". Wrong. The page is set using a style sheet, so such tags are not necessary if the job is done right.



At last, a valid point, nobody cares what tags you use, use H1 or don't, it doesn't matter either way.




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Re: Please test new feature of site optimiser [Re: longplay]
      #44592 - Sat Feb 21 2004 10:39 AM

Thanks for the warning about the ad.js, it certainly wasn't put there by me. I didn't realise the bastards were interfering with my site, like I don't pay them enough already.

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