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Brian993
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Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems.
      #380762 - Sun Jan 20 2008 11:29 PM


Right thanks in advance for any help, but basically got a windows 98se computer with 5GB HDD and "96"mb of SDRAM as 3 x 32mb and i tried installing another 128mb that i bought but now i've restarted a few times and moved it around to other slots and the computer just isn't picking it up.

Also our house runs on a token electricity metre so it goes off from time to time unfortunately when it does if the computers on it will crash while loading windows.

I tried going through step by step configuration and it stops working at MSMOUSE.vxd or similar whether you enable it or not. Is this a problem or just something that happens and cannot be fixed.

Finally, of late its started crashing soon after logging on occaisionaly and other times the screen goes black in both cases i need to restart the computer to get it to work again.

All ideas appreciated, Brian


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Re: Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems. [Re: Brian993]
      #380778 - Mon Jan 21 2008 12:13 PM

Can we try and separate your problems and deal with them one at a time.

First the memory. Did you check on the Cruciial site what memory you could install in your PC. If not, where did you get the memory from and how do you know it's the right sort?


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Re: Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems. [Re: greysts]
      #380839 - Mon Jan 21 2008 08:17 PM

I didn't check up on crucial initially, I just took one of the old cards out and down to the shop.(Everest Technology - www.everest-tech.co.uk)and requested one the same type, but with more memory. The one they provided read off the reciept is an ADATA 128mb SDRAM PC100 my computer crashed when i was trying to find out about it earlier.

I have tried Crucial now and it says my model (it couldn't work it out from the scan) should have max capacity of 512mb, so mine should show up easily 224mb in total, it also says I don't need pairs, and can't use Dual Channel or ECC memory.

I tried just having the new 128mb one in but it just bleeped loudly when i turned it on. However it did recognize 32mb when i only had one of the 32mb ones in with it. So it is detecting differences.

Thanks, Brian


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Re: Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems. [Re: Brian993]
      #380861 - Mon Jan 21 2008 09:53 PM

In that case take it back to the shop and get your money back. I know it costs more but Crucial guarantee the memory they supply will work and will give you a full refund if it doesn't. Why not get your memory from there?

Now to the next problem. If Windows 98 experiences a power failure, unlike XP or Vista it does not have a built in recovery process. If you are lucky it will restart after a simple CHKDSK scan but if not it could corrupt the registry to such a degree that it will fail to start at all. If you can't maintain a regular power supply to your PC all the time then expect it not to work one of these days.


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Re: Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems. [Re: greysts]
      #380968 - Tue Jan 22 2008 05:25 PM

Unfortunately it doesn't cost more at Crucial as they can't find any to work with it, Which i have to admit leads me to think that a local store isn't going to have more success, Thanks Anyway at least i know the problem now and it looks like i'll just have to keep an eye on the metre and switch it off in advance of the power going off. So final problem the crashing, is that mabye something scheduled to run at start up or login? If so why does it crash sometimes and not others?

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Re: Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems. [Re: Brian993]
      #381043 - Wed Jan 23 2008 10:25 AM

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So final problem the crashing, is that mabye something scheduled to run at start up or login? If so why does it crash sometimes and not others?


As I said in my earlier note, Windows 98se doesn't have any crash protection so you've probably got to the stage where the registry is corrupted. The ONLY fix that is certain to work is to re-install Windows 98se from scratch and wipe the existing installation. Do you have the Windows CD?

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Re: Installing RAM and an assortment of other problems. [Re: Brian993]
      #389262 - Sun Mar 23 2008 09:46 PM

PC100 RAM sounds like the right type for the age of your machine. The problem you have sounds like you're trying to add ECC RAM when the computer takes the NON-ECC type or vice verse. This is what you need to check out.

If you can't get hold of the right kind from a local shop try eBay, loads going cheap on there.

P.S. The goal with the token meter is to top it up before it goes off not after


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