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MikeStevens
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In the current issue (169)of WebUser, the problem of Spam is discussed under a heading "Spam leaves bad taste".
In the Answer, it mentions Yahoo Mail and Google mail and suggests that one should and I quote "try forwarding your current email address to one of these"
Can someone explain what exactly this means and how I should do it?
Thanks in anticipation
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skampydog
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it means catching your email while it is still on your email account's server and redirecting it over to a google mail or yahoo email account instead of bringing it straight into your email client (Outlook/ Outlook Express)
You will have set up an email account on the web at some point and used a user name and password (because you would have needed to put these details into Outlook/ Outlook Express etc) eg. myusername@myinternetprovider.co.uk
Log onto the email section of your ISP provider (eg. www.myinternetprovider.co.uk) and see if within email account manager you have the option to forward email.
I would recommend google mail as you can then set this up to be brought in by your email client. Google mail has a good in built spam filter and so most, if not all, spam will be caught by google and you will never see it. Just remember to check google every now and again though to train' the spam filter iust in case it classes some of your contacts as spam
hope this helps but please come back if you need any more info
Get a google email account
set up googlemail to come in via outlook/ outlook express
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MikeStevens
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Thanks you skampydog for your rapid and helpful reply.
I'll do as you suggest and let you know how if I succeed. 
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MikeStevens
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I'm confused already!
My ISP is Orange and I have an email address (from the time it was freeserve). I used Outlook Express and now Windows Mail (Vista) which is basically the same. I presumed this is provided by my ISP, (Orange).
When I attempt to discover if I can forward emails, as scampydog suggests, all I get are references to Orange's Webmail, which is not what I'm using ... is it?
Confusion reigns.
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skampydog
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Orange IS you email provider if the have taken over freeserve. Your email address and Internet user log-in might be me@freeserve.co.uk but Orange are controlling things.
I have had a look around Orange's webmail help page to no avail, it looks like they do not forward mail to another email address and so you cannot do what Webuser suggests to minimise your Spam. I guess that their webmail offers adverts and so they will be reluctant to let you bypass the adverts - Outlook/ Outlook Express being their only concession I suppose. They also offer a paid for spam filter but I personally think that that is a cop out as a lot offer one for free.
The best thing now is for you is to either change your email address to a googkemail one or use a spam filter between Orange and your email client
Candidates include Mailwasher and K9
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MikeStevens
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Many thanks scampydog. All is clear now. I am using the Orange Spam filter and the Windows Mail "Junk email" facility. I get loads of spam, maybe because I've had my email address for about 10 years. I'm reluctant to change it because of the hassle involved.
I started this only because the item in WebUser magazine indicated that I might be able to refine my system, so as to reduce the amount of email
Again, many thanks for your expert help
Mike
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ourstanley
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Spamihilator is a great freeware application that has been featured in Webuser (Issue 168/page 68) If you view my 'then & now' from that post which was almost a month ago, it showed 17 as the highest number of Spam mails. Check out my latest Spam statistics (today) here and you'll notice the highest number in the graph is 5. In another week hopefully I won't have any Spam at all. 
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skampydog
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Ditch the Orange spam filter if a lot of spam is getting through (especially if you are paying for it) and learn how to train Outlook's spam filter instead.
If it is catching spam then it is doing it's job, ones that get through to your inbox simply right click on and send to the junk mail list.
Just a few tips for you -
1) never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, open an email from a recipient you have never heard of (sometimes spammers set up a method of receiving a 'receipt' and they now know that you email account is 'live' and will sell it on)
2) switch off any preview pane you may have on (this can flag an email as being read - see above)
3) never ever, ever, (etc), reply to a spam message or click on an 'unsubscribe' link, also for the above reasons
I have my email account for over 10 years now and reluctantly accept that for the moment spam emails exist and will get through to your inbox but if you follow the above tips you can keep them down to a minimum
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MikeStevens
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Thanks again scampydog. The Orange Spam filter is working, by adding the word "SPAM" to emails. I then use my "Rules" facility to send these to my "Junk E mail" box.
The problem is that I get about 350 such emails a day, and a very few of them that I want to read are identified as "Spam" by the spam filter.
I follow all the procedures you suggest and (almost) always have done. I thought the reason I get so many emails is because I am very active on my computer and send many emails to my contacts and receive many in return and also I have had the same email address for 10 years.
You mention the I should "train Outlook's filter". Actually I don't have Outlook, but have Windows Mail (Vista). How can I "train" a filter?
I also have Hotmail and Google mail accounts, but as everyone uses my main Windows Mail address I am reluctant to change.
Thanks again for your help
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MikeStevens
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Thanks "ourstanley". I'll try your suggestion. I have added more details about my problem in another post in this forum. You will see that I get many spam emails, about 350 per day, and it's a pain.
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