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roartalent
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      #35549 - Sun Jan 18 2004 08:46 PM

Hello people,

I am now well into designing my website but have recently stumbled across a couple of problems I was hopeing for some help with. I am using tables to design my website in order to centre it! I am having trouble with the text and placing it in the positions I want it. Is it best to use CSS to get results? I have also noticed that when I look at my website through the browser (F12) - MS internet Explorer some of the boxes on the table are different sizes to what they are on Dreamweaver MX. Does anyone know any hints/tips to get round this? I am currently tearing my hair trying to get everything to line up!

Thanks

Simon


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Re: Web Design2 [Re: roartalent]
      #35657 - Mon Jan 19 2004 01:11 PM

Hi Simon

Unfortunately all the browsers are a bit different and many will render things like tables in different ways. The trouble with tables is that they're designed to be dynamic, so they'll change depending on things like their contents and the size of screen that the surfer is looking at your site on. You can spend ages fiddling with tiny details and inserting tiny images as spacers to try and get them exactly how you want them, though it might be a better idea to get a general layout that you're happy with and accept that it might change.

CSS isn't much better for tabular layouts - centering elements is messy and and it's really designed for formatting text rather than being a layout tool.


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Re: Web Design2 [Re: andys]
      #35713 - Mon Jan 19 2004 05:06 PM

Any chance we could have a look at your site to see exactly what the problem is.


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Re: Web Design2 [Re: SandRogue]
      #35718 - Mon Jan 19 2004 05:13 PM

Given that username, I'd guess it's http://www.roartalent.com/. If so then I found no problems viewing with IE6.

However, I would advise against anyone filling out the submission form there. It is in a non-protected page, yet asks for sensitive personal contact/location data. This means it will be transmitted in open format, which is downright irresponsible considering the increased incidence of identity theft. That page needs to be https protected for the safety of the sender.

I also strongly recommend for your own sake, you do not use a POST to your own mail address, as the web crawlers will pick that up, including the spambots. Try using a PHP sendmail script instead, so the mailto address is not so easily traceable.


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Re: Web Design2 [Re: safeTsurfa]
      #35746 - Mon Jan 19 2004 07:29 PM

I agree with that about the contact form, I only ask for Name, Email Address and Comments on my contact form. As for the email thingy in PHP, I have my email addresses displayed without PHP, etc and I haven't had any spam (my famous last words).
Owen,
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Re: Web Design2 [Re: owen]
      #35785 - Mon Jan 19 2004 10:39 PM

Thanks for the hints & tips Andys, much appreciated! I will have a look and see what I can do make the website look better! As for the comments by SafeTsurfa, I didn't really find them helpful! No the website is not www.roartalent.com, as that was an earlier attempt. I have recently purchased www.talentmix.com which will hopefully be active within the next 6 months! As for the PHP and other cr?p your're going on about I don't have a clue! I am very new to web design and am still learing everyday! Sorry SandRogue that the website is not available to look at the moment, as soon as it is I will let you know. I would like to hear any constructive comments you may have.


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Re: Web Design2 [Re: roartalent]
      #35797 - Mon Jan 19 2004 11:38 PM

roartalent that would be great,let me know when its up and ill take a look.
I may have one up myself by then,im gonna be doing a photography site for my wife and like you im only learning.
Atm i only know html and css which im just brushing my skills up on.


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Re: Web Design2 [Re: roartalent]
      #35821 - Tue Jan 20 2004 08:49 AM

It isn't crap, it's REAL web mastering. Using that term to describe proper web coding only shows how ignorant you are. You don't like the comments you get don't ask for them. If all you wanted is for people to pat you on the head and say how clever you are, you're in the wrong forum. Here you get honest opinions, like it or not. Now back off with the personal attacks, and try learning something.


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