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Tufts
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Screwed over by eBay
      #351497 - Tue Jun 05 2007 01:50 PM

Usually we read posts about buyers being screwed by sellers on eBay, however I have a recent story concerning myself, as a seller (a powerseller), being screwed over by eBay. I’m not here to moan for moanings sake. I’m here to share my experience and obtain any advice you guys can offer.

I have been a powerseller on eBay for 5 years. I sell approx 500 items per month. They are relatively small value items. Around £3 each on average. I see eBay as a hobby but also as a source of income for my uni tuition fees so that I do not have to rely on a loan. My profit is small, but enough to pay for my uni fees. My feedback is over 11,000 and 99.7%.

I had a brake from selling in December 2006. That is when I sold my last items. The Christmas postal service, being as shoddy and unreliable as it sometimes can be, meant that a few international buyers did not receive their items (about 1% of my customers). This was beyond my control. I ship all items. However because I sell 500 items per month, I do not have the time to fill in tracking forms for each and every item. While it would make good sense to do so, I’m a full time law student and it would be impossible within my time constraints. So I send the items by first class airmail in good faith, and 99% of the time they arrive with no problem, the buyers are pleased and leave positive feedback. As you know, some international buyers did not receive their items. They left negative feedback without contacting me. I was frustrated, as can be expected, but I put the experience down to the risks of trading on eBay. After all, 99.7% of my buyers were still satisfied with my service and the quality of my items. I then ceased selling on eBay because I had law examinations coming up. I planned to resume selling after the examination period.

Last month, completely out of the blue, I received an email from eBay saying that my account has been restricted due to “seller non-performance” and that I had 30 days to “bring my account back to standing, or else I would be permanently banned from eBay”. My first instinct was to assume this was a spoof email. After all I have not done any selling activity for 6 months. After checking with eBay, via their spoof email check and also via contacting eBay directly it was confirmed that the email was valid!

Obviously at this stage I’m shocked, confused and a little scared. I’m also in the middle of my law exams. I log into eBay and find that I cannot perform any activity (no bidding, buying or selling). And yet, eBay are still taking shop fees from me. I contact them immediately via email (the only method that they provide. There is no phone number) and wait a few days for their response. When it arrives, it is an automatic computer-generated response. The response tells me that I have had some negative feedbacks and that they must be removed within 30 days or I will be suspended permanently.

As I have 99.7% positive feedback, I find the emphasis on the 0.3% negative feedback quite baffling; Nonetheless I follow eBay’s instructions. I scan through my feedback until I find the negatives. I contact all the buyers immediately offering full refunds and file “mutual feedback withdrawl” forms for each. In a few days I receive 2 responses from buyers agreeing to withdraw feedback but the other buyers do not respond. This may have been because the transactions were carried out 6 months ago and they no longer use eBay (their accounts appeared dormant for some time). After a few days of waiting for the remaining buyers without luck I email eBay telling explaining the situation. I await eBays response.

In the meantime, the buyers who did agree to withdraw feedback have discovered that they cannot use eBay’s “mutual feedback withdrawl” form because the auctions ended over 2 months ago. Everyone is frustrated at this point. I send another email to eBay about this matter.

The first response I receive from eBay is about the non-responsive buyers and it is an automatic templated response. The response tells me that in order to remove feedback for old auctions, I must use Square Trade. This will cost $20 per feedback. I’m disappointed and frustrated but follow the email’s instructions. I sign up with Square Trade and file cases for the cooperative buyers. I pay with my credit card. The buyers continue to cooperate and after a week eBay remove their negatives from my profile. Finally I think progress is being made.

But what about the non-responsive buyers? I wait upon an email from eBay. When it arrives (you guessed it, an automatic computer-generated email that was obviously made using a template), I am told that I can use Square Trade for those buyers also. So I file Square Trade cases for the non-responsive buyers, but, there is a problem. A week later, Square Trade tell me that they require the email addresses that the buyers had registered with eBay at the time of the transactions. Because the buyers are not responding to my attempts at contact, I cannot obtain their email addresses! Also, because the auctions finished 6 months ago, I could not obtain their email addresses from eBay! I start to panic at this point because I recognize that my time is running out. The 30 days will be over soon. So I email eBay again explaining the situation and anxiously await a reply.

After 5 days I receive a reply. And yes, it’s an automatic computer-generated response using a template. The reply says:


Hello,

You contacted us again about the restriction of your eBay account.

In our previous responses we provided you with the necessary information
to help you to resolve outstanding issues with your buyers who left you
negative feedback.

You have 30 days from the date you received your restriction notice to
improve your account standing. When this time has elapsed we will review
your account again. If your account standing has not improved and you
have not made an effort to resolve all buyer complaints, your account
will be suspended.

Please be aware that within these 30 days, future emails to us will be
read, however, we may not reply.

Thank you for your efforts to resolve this matter with your buyers. We
will contact you in due course.

Kind regards,

Richard Dunne
eBay Trust & Safety



I have absolutely NO idea what to do at this point. So I concentrate on my law exams and hope that the feedbacks I have successfully been able to remove via paying Square Trade, will be enough to reinstate my account.

Yesterday I received an email from eBay informing me:


Access to your eBay account has been indefinitely restricted for repeated breaches of our Seller Non-Performance policy.

Our top priority is to ensure that eBay remains a safe and reputable place to buy and sell. We cannot permit further use of this account due to the nature of the policy breaches and the number of issues you have outstanding with your buyers.

We sent you a notice advising you of this restriction and allowed you a 30-day period of limited access to conclude any outstanding transactions and resolve issues with your buyers.

As these 30 days have now elapsed, we have reviewed your account standing and access to your account has been fully and indefinitely restricted.



So there you have it. Despite all my efforts, I have no idea what I have done wrong. I can quite confidently say I did everything within my power to rectify the situation. I relied on eBay as my income and I am left with a large storage room full of stock. I was a powerseller with a large percentage of positive feedback and I was also an eBay top 100 reviewer. This suspension has come as a complete and utter shock to me.

I have racked my brains for some possible ways to rectify the situation. I feel helpless because eBay has the monopoly over buyers and sellers alike, and we, the people who are lining eBay’s pocket, have no rights. As I said at the start of this post, I am not on my soapbox just to moan like an emo; I am posting here because I know many of you guys are eBay users. Perhaps you can think of a solution that I have not yet considered? Perhaps you have experienced this or something similar yourself?

So far, I have only been able to come up with the following list of possible avenues to sort out this mess. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me figure out some more.

• Send a letter via recorded delivery to their UK head office in Northern Ireland (this would get around the ‘automated response’ syndrome)
• Solicitor (disproportionality/slander/Sale of Goods Act/more research to be done here)
• Watchdog (the desperate mans choice )
• UK consumer organization? (Trading Standards for example, http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk)


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Re: Screwed over by eBay [Re: Tufts]
      #351520 - Tue Jun 05 2007 04:17 PM

This is a toughie, but the only rule I have with eBay is never let it go. When I send them an email and get the usual rubbish response I reply to that email (politely) explaining how the email DID NOT answer the query and generally after the third or fourth attempt (getting progressively less polite) you get an answer - it might not be the answer you want (ie. yes, you can have your seller fees back etc.) but most times it gets you to a real (enough) person.

The only matter I have an issue with here is that I have never heard of anyone on eBay having been suspended for getting negatives, so I wondered if there was a deeper matter that you haven't expanded on - did the buyers who did not get their goods log complaints through eBay and PayPal and these have gone unattended by you and snowballed?

This next bit is the 'closing stable door after horse bolted' but the problem seems to have occurred when you took a break and literally never logged back on. I know you had studies etc. but selling 500 items a month leaves you with some responsibility and I get the feeling that is why eBay have hit you the way they have. Did you register as a Business Seller? This would not be the reason but the IR are clamping down and hitting eBay hard now.

The issue of Certs of Posting can be solved simply. The Post Office supply them in forms where you can list ten names and addresses. You sold 500 items a month so on a 5 day, 4 week basis this would have been about 25 items a day - feasible, but hard work filling in two and half forms or more. So next time come to a deal with the Post Office you visit - if you produce a printed listed of names and addresses each time, will they check and sign that as proof of posting? You can Copy and Paste the names and addresses from the sales emails - I use the same method to print labels for mailing the item.

Anyway, I know that is just scratching the surface and probably not achieving much, and for want of aggravating any mods by suggesting you look at another forum can I suggest the Forums on eBay - there is a Powerseller Forum that might be of use - you can find it under Community. I reckon there you will find people in similar positions, plus you can sometimes get lucky and get one of the eBay team reply.

Please get back with any updates as it would be useful to hear how you get on.

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Re: Screwed over by eBay [Re: Tufts]
      #360409 - Wed Aug 08 2007 12:44 AM

tufts - you have my sympathy as i have suffered too at the hand of the ebay suspension team - seems like this is happening to lots of other people too for no good reason

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Re: Screwed over by eBay [Re: joamiga]
      #360417 - Wed Aug 08 2007 08:32 AM

Yet only yesterday you were offering to sells CDs to another WebUser Forum member (against the rules) and had the post removed - your other post has been locked by the modulators..................................And you are still wondering why eBay suspended you................................As the answers given to you in the other post say very clearly, there is always a reason. You just need to acknowledge it.

This guy was suspended for a simple reason: He traded HEAVILY on eBay for a time and made a lot of sales. Then he walked away. He did not check his emails. He walked away. When people complained that items had not arrive (and if you sell a lot of items you will always get one or two lost in the post)or had a problem he was NOT there to answer and deal with the queries. Because he walked away. If you were a buyer how would you feel?

EBay would have investigated to ask him to deal with the queries - but he had walked away. How clear does it have to be? They then suspended him for not dealing with complaints, and he wonders why?

You will also notice that he posted once in June and never got back with an update which helps no one.

The I Hate eBay site is filled with people with 'stories' that hide the real reason for suspension. You break rules, you get kicked off. And eBay becomes a safer place.

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Edited by FilthyRaider (Wed Aug 08 2007 09:06 AM)


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Re: Screwed over by eBay [Re: FilthyRaider]
      #360471 - Wed Aug 08 2007 05:13 PM

no i never offered to sell cds or anything else to anyone on here
i asked him which cd he wanted
if i had that cd he could have had it for free

yes i can read and wished to sympathize - is that against the rules on here


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Re: Screwed over by eBay [Re: joamiga]
      #360474 - Wed Aug 08 2007 05:35 PM

As the OP hasn't returned to the forum and this is going well off topic, I'm locking the thread.

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