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Shrek
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Slow xp
      #345919 - Wed May 02 2007 09:00 AM

Hi,
Any tips or advice for speeding up XP?? cheaply or free?
about a month ago I installed xp pro and office pro onto a 40gb harddrive on my pc, when it boots up its ok but takes ages to boot up and then takes a while sometimes to do anything??
I have scan disk and de frag it says 84% free space??
not much else on the its a black dell p3 with 512 ram theirs 40gb seagate hard drive and a back up drive set to slave which is another seagate same model.
Also all the windows updates are current.??

Cheers
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Re: Slow xp [Re: Shrek]
      #345932 - Wed May 02 2007 11:37 AM

The first thing you could do is to download start-up inspector from HERE and follow the installation instructions. When you run it, it will tell you everything that starts up with your machine. Untick anything you don't need starting, click apply and then re-boot. This should speed you up a little.

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Re: Slow xp [Re: nickflynn22]
      #345978 - Wed May 02 2007 06:16 PM

Thanks I will give it a go,

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Re: Slow xp [Re: Shrek]
      #345980 - Wed May 02 2007 06:51 PM

Here's an alternative way to identify and stop Startup items and processes hogging your Start. . . . . > How to determine which programs and services are loading into memory when Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition starts up . . . . .
Make sure you click on the following part to the tutorial at the end of each page.

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Re: Slow xp [Re: Fusion]
      #350661 - Thu May 31 2007 09:23 AM

There are so many things which could be slowing down your machine. Since you seem to have done defragmenting on a fairly empty drive that's unlikely to be a problem. Other possibilities are:

1. Viruses
2. Trojans, spyware etc.
3. Anti-spyware software
4. Indexing tools
5. Virtual memory problems and VM configuration
6. Bad drivers (e.g for network interfaces)

Use a good anti-virus checker to keep viruses off your machine. If you've been doing this already you probably won't have this as a problem, but if not then you may be in a bad state.

Use tools such as Spybot S&D, Adaware, AVG Anti-Spyware, Windows Defender to check for, and clear off spyware. Some will come back, so run one or more of these at least once a week. Also Spywareblaster may help to stop some from installing.

When running, tools such as virus checkers often interfere with normal operation. They run in the background, but they can really slow things down a lot. Check the schedules, and make sure they're not running a full scan when you want to use the machine seriously. Recently some Windows XP updates seem to have put Windows Defender on to my machine, and it slowed down even further. Having one anti-virus system running will slow your machine down, but if you get two runnning at the same time it will become painfully slow.

If you use desktop search engines these can also slow your system down a lot, so turn off indexing when you want to use the machine, and only enable the search engines when you want them - don't let them come on at startup.

You don't mention what kinds of programs you are trying to run. Some programs, such as video and audio recorders and editors use very large files, and these may have an adverse effect on virtual memory and slow your machine down.

Virtual memory configuration can have an impact, though you may not get the behaviour you expect by tinkering with it.

Bad drivers can have an effect. One obvious thing is to check your network interface. Disconnect your machine from the network, and see if it speeds up on stand alone tasks. If so, suspect the interface drivers and look for up to date ones.

Lastly, I recommend WinPatrol - http://www.winpatrol.com/ - to check on startup files. This is similar to other tools mentioned, but files can be disabled, and later re-enabled if needed.


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Re: Slow xp [Re: dave2002]
      #350753 - Thu May 31 2007 04:37 PM

A quick postscript to previous posting. You might also try the following:

1. Make sure that all the temporary files are cleared off your drive. Use Right Click on Drive icon. Then select Properties, and press the Disk Cleanup button.

2. If all else fails, try reverting to a previous system setting using
Start -> Help and Support then "Undo changes to your computer with System Restore"
There are two reasons why this might work. One is that a previous configuration is more reliable, but another is that this may release hidden files from your disk drive which are used to save the data for System Restore. You can also reduce the space allocated to System Restore data from Control Panel -> System ->System Restore -> Settings.

However, from your description, I suspect that your problems lie elsewhere.


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Re: Slow xp [Re: dave2002]
      #351919 - Thu Jun 07 2007 07:20 PM

Hi,
Thank you for all the above information which I have tried with some success.
I am only trying to run normal programs at the moment, ie word, internet, sometime music etc.
I have even been onto Crucial and I have found out I can not upgrade anymore??

I have a p3 Optiplex gx150 133mhz with 2 x 256 so 512 ram 1 x 40gb hard drive running xp + another 40gb hard drive as a slave backup drive, idea being store as much as possible on slave drive to make main drive run better?
its telling me I have 29gb free on this drive
I have just run cclear which helped abit, I defrag'd and scan disked last night?
I would normall do this every month to 6 weeks anyway.

I have checked the start up folder and there is only avg virus & anti spy ware as well as the pct firewall thats it I think
Could it be a xp setting? I only say that as I changed the main hard drive about 3 months ago from a 20gb so I had to do a full install of xp ?
it seems very slow generally , it wasn't this slow with the nearly full 20gb hard drive.

The wireless internet with sky is runing great speed 54.mps and conectivity excellent.

any ideas would be great as my mrs is driving me nuts moaning about it!

Cheers


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Re: Slow xp [Re: Shrek]
      #352784 - Tue Jun 12 2007 05:07 PM

Hi any ideas welcome please its driving me crazy...

Cheers


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Re: Slow xp [Re: Shrek]
      #352838 - Tue Jun 12 2007 08:53 PM

The easiest way for us to see what's running on your PC is to do an HJT log and post it in THIS thread, not the HJT forum. Follow the instructions at the top of the HJT forum to download HJT then post a log here.

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Re: Slow xp [Re: greysts]
      #353173 - Thu Jun 14 2007 07:11 PM

Cheers greysts

See below
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 19:05:39, on 14/06/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\Program Files\PC Tools Firewall Plus\PCTFW.exe
C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe
C:\Program Files\BillP Studios\WinPatrol\winpatrol.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.skybroadband.com
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.skybroadband.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://www.skybroadband.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Window Title = Internet Explorer Provided By Sky Broadband
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\ssv.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_EMC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCTools FW] C:\Program Files\PC Tools Firewall Plus\PCTFW.exe /s
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [!AVG Anti-Spyware] "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe" /minimized
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinPatrol] C:\Program Files\BillP Studios\WinPatrol\winpatrol.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Sky - {08E730A4-FB02-45BD-A900-01E4AD8016F6} - http://www.skybroadband.com (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\juniper networks\secure application manager\samnsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\juniper networks\secure application manager\samnsp.dll
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1181078555290
O16 - DPF: {A90A5822-F108-45AD-8482-9BC8B12DD539} (Crucial cpcScan) - http://www.crucial.com/controls/cpcScanner.cab
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -
O18 - Protocol: livecall - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\MSGRAP~1.DLL
O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\MSGRAP~1.DLL
O20 - Winlogon Notify: WgaLogon - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WgaLogon.dll
O21 - SSODL: WPDShServiceObj - {AAA288BA-9A4C-45B0-95D7-94D524869DB5} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\WPDShServiceObj.dll
O23 - Service: AVG Anti-Spyware Guard - Anti-Malware Development a.s. - C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: ServiceLayer - Nokia. - C:\Program Files\PC Connectivity Solution\ServiceLayer.exe

I think the juniper thing is the remote access for when my mrs works from home and it was slow before this was installed


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Re: Slow xp [Re: Shrek]
      #353185 - Thu Jun 14 2007 08:28 PM

I can't see anything in that log that would make the PC particularly slow. However I have to tell you that within the rules of this forum your question relates to a business machine and as such we do not offer to fix them. If your wife's company wants her to work from home then they should be supplying the computer or at least offer to pay to have any problems fixed. Sorry I can't help you further.

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Re: Slow xp [Re: greysts]
      #353210 - Thu Jun 14 2007 09:48 PM

Cheers for the advice, Its not that often she works from home its mainly a home pc and the problem was there before she installed it about 3 weeks ago.
but ok I understand

Thanks again


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Re: Slow xp [Re: nickflynn22]
      #358825 - Tue Jul 24 2007 10:08 PM

Hi ,
I read your post about start up inspector,what a great user friendly program!
Do you know of a program like that,that I can go through all my program files,to weed out the nasties and useless ones?
Cheers


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