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emailuser
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Although i do kinda remember the thrill of getting a ftp app to work and after many failed attempts finally getting a www.blahblah.whateverisp.co.uk to work in the browser - the thrill is long gone as once you can do stuff in your sleep it all becomes a bit mind numbingly boring .
Even writing php scripts has become a bit boring as theres no challenge to writing it and doing it is nothing more than a technicality .
While i know the web user forums are for newish type of users - just curious if theres any other experienced users who are starting to feel the same way .
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Zippy_Brown
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Oh no.
I hate the designing (image creation) bit of web building but the scripting is what makes the site have functionality and meaning.
Only this morning I was writing a script to check email accounts and databases for specific entries and then place a notification on another page so the owner of the site can use his wap enabled mobile (small screen) to see if he needs to go home or fire up his laptop to sort out the situation. The criteria was very precise and it was good to see it working.
Try going that step further each time, adding more and achieving what you haven't attempted before, or what no-one else has attempted before sometimes!
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Gary_Bongo
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I agree with you Zippy, the last site I created I did with ASP and Database just for the hell of it. In the past I would have created several pages but did the whole job in just one. Maybe not pushing the limits of coding but pushing my limits.
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Metaphysical
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I still enjoy the image manipulation/create side of web design a lot, but the coding side of things can get a bit mind numbing if it’s the same old type of site over and over again (request designs by others). The enjoyment comes mostly from learning something new putting into practice, or revamping an existing site and seeing the results as you go.
I’m self-taught in graphic design and web coding and so there are plenty of things that I’ve still to learn! One things that does get a bit much for me is that as soon as I’ve just learnt something there is another coding/scripting language that has been developed. It sort of feels like I’ve just climbed a giant staircase and just when I think I’m at the top I find out there’s another 100 floors to go!
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emailuser
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Once i get started and once working on the website/script i'll usually work away for several hours at a time without any problems - its the getting started thats the hard part as the lure of being lazy and having a surf instead of working is quite tempting .
The only thing i enjoy these days is tinkering about with the finished script/css to make the website look or work better as the results are instant - its the several days work of preperation thats the mind numbing part .
The users on here who build one .html webpage at a time dont know how lucky they are in one respect :-)
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terry1975
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I'm still coding my first html page and I'm already bored.
Do people really code a site from scratch, or do they just learn a bit and tinker with a site they've created with software?
It kinda gets complicated for me. I'm creating my own buttons at the moment and I've got to make about 20 of them. Zzzzzzzzzz.
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ianm
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Terry,
If your having 20 buttons then that may mean you have 20 pages, look at putting your navigation menu in a file by itself then pulling it into the page by a piece of code called an include, then in the future if ever you add another page you only have to change one file for menu to be updated on all other pages.
Know this is a little off topic for this thread but includes are one of the biggest time savers if the whole site is not pulled from a database and will help prevent you getting fed up with mind numbing tasks.
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terry1975
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Sorry Ian, I should have explained it better.
I've created buttons instead of normal clickable blue links for my Links page. The buttons aren't for a menu.
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emailuser
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Xara webstyle is pretty good if you need to create 20 graphic/image buttons as it also generates the html code for them so you only need to do a cut-n-paste of the html code into the webpage , Once you know how the app works the full thing takes about 10 minutes .
v3 (full version) is on lots of magazine cover disks and well worth the fiver as the app can do lots of other things via a easy to use point-n-click slider bars interface .
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Nanook
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I used to do a lot of website making for myself and enjoyed it, I then thought about doing it as a job and even got a job doing it, which if I'm honest bored me. I then went back to just making them for me and friends.
I like to learn more and learnt a lot on coding the biggest site I'd ever done, www.gta-guides.com, but to me it is more fun doing it as a hobby rather than on a time limit and under pressure, teaching myself as I go along
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TheFatControlleR
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I used to do a lot of website making for myself and enjoyed it, I then thought about doing it as a job and even got a job doing it, which if I'm honest bored me...
I think that's true of any hobby-turned-job. As a hobby there's no pressure and it's fun, as a job it has to earn its keep and please others. I see similar experiences with photographers, great hobbyists, good images, but when it comes to doing it for a living very few succeed or enjoy it. 
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terry1975
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Thanks emailuser for your suggestion. I will look into that.
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Ketchupkev
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For me the most fustrating thing is when I have been asked by a friend to put a site together and they don't give you any information on how they want it to look/act/feel.
An recent example of this is when I was asked to build a swimming club site. I was emailed a logo... which was nice, but when I asked for more info such as the main aims of the site, what colour scheme thay would like,or what the look and feel of the site should be etc. I was told that they would go with what I came up with. 
So, In essance I would be designing to my own idea of what a site should look like and you just know that on being shown the prototype they would do that intake of breath through the teeth thing and say that it wasn't really what they were after.....aaaaaargh!
Suffice to say this project is going slowly!
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