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Martcol
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Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox
      #305259 - Sat Sep 16 2006 08:52 AM

OK, so I know what a nested table is but don't let that fool you! I don't know much else. I am a complete novice to web-building but, I have learned quite a bit. Anyhow, here's my problem: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/martcol/Mental_Health/Images_and_Words/The_People_Images.html

The bottom row of images is wrong. The cells seem to have expanded - got taller. I've tried lots of variations of size in containing and nested tables e.g. pixel, auto, % but all to no avail. In fact, I have tried so many variations, for several hours now so I can't remember what's what.

I use GoLive for my web building and struggle a bit with code.

Thanks for looking.

Martin


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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: Martcol]
      #305445 - Sun Sep 17 2006 01:24 PM

Hi Martin,

Your tables are fine in Internet explorer. Firefox does this to a lot of pages that contain tables, personally I would not worry about it.

It is best to have your site designed for IE as the firefox users only make up a small percentage of visitors.

From the statistics on my website IE accounts for over 80% and firefox a mere 13%

The others are opera, safari and netscape.

Many of my pages do not appear correctly in firefox, but there does not seem to be much that I can do about it.


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Martcol
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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: ultimatehandyman]
      #305507 - Sun Sep 17 2006 06:56 PM

Thanks for looking.

There was actually a problem; a couple of stray < p> tags. Deleted those and it's better.

Regards

Martin


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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: ultimatehandyman]
      #308754 - Mon Oct 09 2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Hi Martin,

Your tables are fine in Internet explorer. Firefox does this to a lot of pages that contain tables, personally I would not worry about it.

It is best to have your site designed for IE as the firefox users only make up a small percentage of visitors.

From the statistics on my website IE accounts for over 80% and firefox a mere 13%

The others are opera, safari and netscape.

Many of my pages do not appear correctly in firefox, but there does not seem to be much that I can do about it.




Hi there, I know it's a bit of an old thread but I would like to comment on what you posted.

1. Firefox does not do things to code that shouldn't be done, it's ususlly bad code in the first place that IE just ignores.

2. Develop Using Firefox as it is more standards compliant than IE by a long way. M/S might get closer to it in IE7 but I have my doubts. And the reason why most visitors use IE is that they are blind to the advantages of using something else.

3. You say that many of your pages do not appear correctly in Firefox and that there is not much you can do about it? Wrong, in fact if you validated your code it would show you that it has a lot of errors. See here W3C validator

To sum up, use Firefox to develop and check your pages, then check them in IE.
If you use a wysiwyg editor try and use the view/edit code option if possible, or better still, learn about coding web pages and use a text editor, there are many around that will show you the code on highlighted form and of course there is so much info on the web. And if you want to develop your skills in css subscribe to a good css forum like the one I use, CSS Creator


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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: AGMan]
      #308758 - Mon Oct 09 2006 11:16 PM

On the other hand - isnt firefox in fantasy lah lah land if it honestly and genuinly expects people to write perfect html code ? .

IE is the better browser because it doesnt expect perfection .

Firefox just chucks its rattle out the pram .


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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: emailuser]
      #308847 - Tue Oct 10 2006 11:48 AM

I've never thought of it that way before emailuser. Your right. Well you both are, but I don't worry about small errors on firefox pages. I only make changes if it's REALLY needed.

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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: emailuser]
      #310901 - Sat Oct 21 2006 12:03 AM

Quote:

On the other hand - isnt firefox in fantasy lah lah land if it honestly and genuinly expects people to write perfect html code ? .




But why accept poorly coded code when it can cause more work later?

Quote:

IE is the better browser because it doesnt expect perfection .

Firefox just chucks its rattle out the pram .




IE also doesnt accept web standard coding at times, M$ seem to have their own idea what is 'standards compliant' and what is not. And if FX chucks it's rattle out of the pram then that's because it knows that it is wrong, rather than just convincing folks that black IS white iykwim.


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Re: Nested Table Cell size different in Mozilla and Firefox [Re: AGMan]
      #310979 - Sat Oct 21 2006 12:56 PM

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It is best to have your site designed for IE as the firefox users only make up a small percentage of visitors.

From the statistics on my website IE accounts for over 80% and firefox a mere 13%




I can appreciate that most people use IE when surfing the net but to me 13% is quite a high number. That's 13 out of 100 people that you are basically treating as being unimportant. I use Firefox as my primary browser and I have clicked away from sites that don't look right even when I have been interested in the website content. I do occasionally switch to IE to see the site in all it's glory (and that is only when I am really really interested in the site content) but why should I have to do that?

Sorry about the rant there but I like Firefox, and Opera come to think about it!

By the way, is IE7 standards compliant or is Microsoft still doing it's own thing?

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