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hi all
new here and a total novice 
Basicly we have windows xp pro on the pc and i want to f-disk ( i think thats what they call it lol ) and re-install windows xp pro again.
Was wondering if anybody out there could write down a step by step guide for a blonde like me ( yes it really has to be simpley put lol ) ...i have an xp disc with a seriel number ....
your help would be HUGELY appriciated
many thanx in advance
Foxy18
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foxy18
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so far ive tried searchin on the net
please correct me if im wrong
i have to go into bios and select primary boot from cd .... then when i switch off pc and on again i enter the xp disk and select format ???? is this right ? please help
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evilmonkeyzz
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Hello, welcome to the forums.
Right, put the xp disk in, turn on your computer and enter the BIOS. -As soon as you turn on your PC, Repeatedly tap: Del, F12, F1 or sometimes F8 (It could be any of these, different manufacturers use different keys, keep trying until you enter a new screen).
Now you need to change the boot order (This changes what the computer looks for to boot from first, usually it is the hard drive and then it loads windows). You will have to search the BIOS for 'this, (It will be called something like: 'Boot order') When you have found it, change the 1st one to the disk drive that you will have the xp disk in. Now save and exit the bios, (usually F10 or F12). The computer will now restart, and if done correctly it will either load straight from the xp disk or you will be asked to press a button to confirm the load from the disk.
You will now be in the xp setup, where it will give you instructions as to what to do from there. It could take up to an hour (depending on your PC) to install and you will need to stay with it as it will ask for confirmation for certain things every now and again.
Hope this helps 
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hi thankyou for posting a reply
someone said that there was more to do in the bios tho ...something about partitions ...and i said i didnt really want um and they said no it wont want you to have them ....i got confused at that point lol ...do u know what they were on about lol
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RichieP
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evilmonkeyzz gives a good explanation, but if you get stuck, have a look here
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evilmonkeyzz
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I am only talking from personal experience from the four or five times that I have had to reinstall xp.
You shouldn't need to do anything with the partitions in the BIOS, that is done during the xp setup and it gives you clear instructions. (Brief description of Partitions)
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foxy18
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i want to kiss the ground you walk on
thankyou soooo much
i did it !!!!
the only thing i was a bit stuck on was that when i went to delete the c drive it already had a partition so i deleted the one that had data on and then thought id better make another partition before i installed windows back on ....which i did but i wasnt sure of the size .....it came up automaticly with a size (max i think ) so i left it at that
thanx again m8
and if you have any suggestions on the size it would be great for future ref
p.p.s we had a second hard disk in there 200gig but when it was last f-disked by a friend it went down to 128gig ???? ...when i was doing fdisk this one too had a partition ...could that be why ive lost 72 gig ?
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You could have left it with just the one partition (C) but having 2 is no problem.
To check your second hard drive:
Right-click My Computer and select Manage.
Click Disk Management and the right-pane should show both your disks and the partitions.
You will be able to tell which is which because your main disk will be labelled Disk 0, the second Disk 1. You can format and change the partitions by right-clicking on the second disk and selecting format, and change drive letters etc.
You won't be able to do it on your main disk with Windows installed on it in there.
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foxy18
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right ...
ive right clicked mt comp and manage and disk management
i have my two drives in there
disk 0 has no partition (must have done that wrong lmao )
and disk 1 has 2 ...1 says 128 ntfs healthy the other says 61.92 unallocated
another question (sorry) is it better to have the os on its own partition ?
my pc is keeps freezing too lmao
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is it better to have the os on its own partition ?
It seems to be a personal preference. Some say yes, other that it doesn't matter.
At least you now know where the missing part of your 200GB hard drive has gone. Right-click the one that says unallocated and select Format.
If your computer keeps freezing after just reinstalling Windows, you may have a hardware problem.
Who put the extra hard drive in?
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foxy18
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a friend of a friend put the new hard drive in when he built it , but he charges us £20 every time we want to f-disk so another friend f-disked last time lol and now to save money and stress to other people i thought id have a go myself ......
when i right click the 2nd box on my 2nd hard drive the unallocated one all i get is
new partition
properties
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You need to create a new partition in the unallocated space. Have a look here
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foxy18
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thanx mate its done i now have 200gig hard drive again ....much appriciated !!!!!!!
so how do you reckon it lost it in the first place because it happened after a friend f-disked and installed windows again ...what did they do wrong ?
my last problem that i can fins is that im trying to install all programs back on but when i try to install my much loved black hawk down ...the run disk starts i select install game and it all freezes up and then i get an error message saying
"application failed to initiaze properly (0xc0000006) click on ok to terminate the application "
im lost without it lol
thankyou soo much you have really really helped me 
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evilmonkeyzz
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Have you installed Windows service pack and all of the available updates?
If not, go to Windows update and install service pack to and all available security downloads. This probably won't fix your problem, but the importance of doing it cannot be stressed enough!
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foxy18
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hiya evil monkey ...service pack 2 is on there and yes automatic updates are on and i downloaded and installed everything ...thanks for the advice m8
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Your friend obviously didn't format all the partitions correctly.
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application failed to initiaze properly (0xc0000006) click on ok to terminate the application
Every solution I can find to this error suggests reinstalling Windows 
Not ideal seeing as you've just done it, but you could try a Repair Install
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evilmonkeyzz
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I get the same solutions as RichieP. A repair install doesn't take as long as it only installs system files, it doesn't wipe the disk, it only replace windows system files, although you will have to install all the updates again.
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thanx guys ....really appriciate your help
will have a go lol
couldnt have done any of this without ya ...thankyou !!!!!!
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evilmonkeyzz
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Glad to have helped, if you have anymore questions, please return and ask them, we will try our hardest to answer them! Please let us know how you get on.
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foxy18
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omg !!!!!
you really dont want to know
right i went to repair the c ....and basicly exited it ...then it wouldnt boot up without the cd in .....so
i went through the install process on the g hard drive ......the new parition that i had lost (68gig)
anyway now my c drive isnt showing up in bios ...ive lost it
when xp finishes installing on g ...will i be able to go to find new hard ware ? wll this pick up my c drive ????
im freaking out lol
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and if it does then do i go through the process and delete all partitions and re-install on c ??????
god im hoping someone is about at this deadly hour lol
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foxy18
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ok ok i panicked a bit .... when i went through the install process again the c was there ...so formatted it and am installing xp on now .....but have just relised i didnt format g .......so now i still have two os ...... how do i get rid of the os on g .....
lmao i cant believe how worked up i am ....im praying i can fix this by morning ......match sticks here we come lol
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evilmonkeyzz
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Calm down mate, everything will be fine, just take your time! 
Are the C and G drives 2 different partitions on the one hard drive? I don't think you will be able to format the g drive normally because it has an os installed, you can try as it won't be the boot drive. This page describes the way to format a partition.
If the option to format is grayed out then the same website has this article describing how to format a partition with an os on.
Hope this help, I am a bit of an insomniac so will probably be around till 3 or 4 if you need any help.
Josh
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foxy18
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helloo again im hoping to catch u while ur up fingers crossed so ill explain in the next one lol
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right c is my 40 gig and then i had 2 partitions of my 200gig ...d & g (could have been e lol )
anyway i managed to delete all partitions ...so that left me with c & d .... it formated both and took hrs to do the d but never mind lol ...... and then i thought it was installing xp on c ......but
when i right click my computer and manage it says c is the boot and d is the system ...??????
after i did all this i changed bios boot from cd to floppy (sure that was what it was on ) second device is disabled ....but it just asks to insert cd into proper device
i cant get it to boot up on its own .....nightmare lol
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foxy18
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ive been in bios and my hard drive isnt in there
it isnt in the hard drive section and it isnt in the boot section either
options for 1st boot is ...floppy ....cd/dvd ....hdd 200gig ....
options for 2nd boot is none it just says disabled
but it is in my computer ? and shows on the hardware list ?
what have i done ??? 
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foxy18
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omg ...been in bios loads and couldnt find it
went into hard drives had a play and both came up
so then went into boot sequence and i have got my pc back booting from hdd but i put floppy 1st and it takes a bit so think i may rearrange that lol (if i dare)
can you please clarify why i have boot on one drive and system on the other ? is that right or have i done something wrong again lmao ...how should it be ?
thankyou so much and sorry for freaking on you guys ....was told if you mess with bios and get summat wrong may as well put pc in bin (can u tell im female lol )
now what got me into this mess was that error code .....well im still getting it lol , second time of installing os .....just dont know what to do now ..do u think it could be the cd ? or something else ?
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evilmonkeyzz
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Hi, sorry I didn't reply yesterday, I got sidetracked by some book that I am reading, right near the end, couldn't put it down. 
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(0xc0000006)
Is that the error code your talking about? I did a bit of looking around for that yesterday and, you will be infuriated to know, the only solutions were to do a repair install, or wipe the disk and start again. After you did the F-disk the first time, did you install all of your hardware drivers? This came up a few times as a possible cause of that error.
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can you please clarify why i have boot on one drive and system on the other ? is that right or have i done something wrong again lmao ...how should it be ?
As for this, please can you explain this a bit more, not sure what you mean!
You can mess up your computer by using the BIOS incorrectly, but that is only if you start changing the values for the processor speed and the supplied voltages across your computer. I really want to get this fixed now!!!
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foxy18
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hiya evilmonkey
thanks for the reply .....i solved it but your not going to believe it lol .....i am infuriated that i stayed up till 6.30 am this morning trying all sorts ...to find out it was the actual cd ...tryed another one today and it installed straight away no probs lmao ...... so if you ever get this code when trying to install a game try another cd lol
when i right click my computer - manage - disk managment , i have my two hard drives in there ...both saying healthy ...one drive says boot the other says system .... is this how they are supposed to be ?
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foxy18
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wanted to say thanx again you both deserve a pint on me !!!
couldnt have done it without you guys and you have helped me learn summat new ...cheers i owe you !!!
Foxy (just wish i could help others on here but i look at the post and think omg lol havent a clue)
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evilmonkeyzz
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Glad your sorted, even if you did waste all of last night trying to fix an unfix-able problem. Was the disk damaged?
I am not sure about your question about the boot and system, I don't have my hd partitioned so I would only be guessing. I suppose if it all works then your best leaving it!
You, don't owe us anything, that is what these forums are for, sharing knowledge..... but seem as you offered, I will accept the pint!!
Josh
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