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anniel
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Before getting my new Evesham, I painstakingly copied about 20 CDRs containing .exe programmes I wanted to transfer plus loads of music.
Shock, horror..when I put the data discs into my CD writer, the programme does not recognise the CD and says, "put your disc in"
I rang Evesham and the techie got me to put a much older MP 3 made in 2001 into the writer and it recognised it and played the MP3.
For my latest copies I used Philips CDrs..some medium range price CD-R90s and some el Cheap Philips on a spindle of 25 discs.
Is there any answer to this failure...or is it purely down to the quality? I know there is a danger with cheap CDRs...but these were brand new and only used last week!
I used the Adaptec Direct CD programme on my old computer, which I had always used with no trouble.
Next question:
All the files I copied are still on my old PC. My husband wants to know if we could connect the two PCs and transfer files that way. If so what sort of cable would we require? And how do you go about connecting the PCs
It never rains but it pours!!!
Please help
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RichardB
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Hi,
You could remove the Hard Drive from your old Pc and fit it to the New Pc (provided their is a slot availible). This is an easy task to do and costs nothing. You then can choose to use the drive or copy the files over and then remove the drive. Joining two pc's is networking and is a little harder and involves sending money.
If you want to try this there is plenty of help/advice here.
Richard 
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anniel
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Richard, I only bought this PC last week and I am not keen to start taking off the back and tinkering with the innards...I am not quite that technically expert. How much money does it cost just to join the computers to transfer data?
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Joe_London
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I think you need a crossover cable to connect the two PC's. I've not done this myself but I think you need a usb connection on both Computers. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I usually remove the hard drive from the old Computer and fit it as a slave in the new one and then drag the files across. Remember to change the pins to slave on the back of the old hard drive. This assumes you or your husband are comfortable going inside the Computer and it doesn't nullify the warranty. Should you opt for this method remember the static electricity rules.
Joe.
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Joe_London
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Hi Richard and Anniel,
I'll have to remember to scroll down the thread before responding in future. Sorry about that I really didn't see the last two posts. Well at least we gave our opinions independently Richard and we are on the same track.
Joe.
"Computer Help" is about as big a lie as "the cheque is in the post."
Gavin Estler
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anniel
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Joe,
I am worried about going into the new computer! It is so new and neither hubs or myself have enough techie knowledge. Have you heard whether some CDRs are not recognised by CD Writers?
I have read as much as I can about this...but some people say the problem lies with XP not having an aspi layer and so it is necessary to extract "aspichk" and "FORCEASPI117" to put on the PC.
I am afraid it is all Dutch to me. I am thinking of buying some Sony CDRs (to match my Sony Writer) to see if that works and going into my old HDD and downloading a disc again to see if that works!
I am really fed up with this problem.
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RichardB
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Hi
Understand your concern about the Pc warranty and tinkering. I have little info on costs but other people here have. Sorry  .
Hopefully someone will be of some help here.
Richard
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greysts
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Have a look at this. To avoid opening up your PC you can use the Direct Cable Connection (DCC) already provided in Windows. You will only need to buy the appropriate cable. If you use the Network Interface Card (NIC) you need a crossover cable. You can also use the printer port (LPT1) or the COM port. Again you will need a special cable sometimes called a NUL modem or Laplink cable. Finally you can use a USB port but this will require special software. Once you have connected the PC's you will need to share the HDD on your old PC so that the new one can read it.
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Joe_London
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Anniel,
I'm sure there are many possible causes of this problem. The only one I personally encountered was when I took a CD-R disk to my cousins house and found it didn't work in his Computer because I'd forgotten to close it. Just thought I'd mention that in case. MP3 files are huge in comparison with other file types so make sure they were burnt to disk properly.
The stuff you mention is DD to me as well so I hope some of the others will jump in and try to resolve this with you.
Sorry I can't be of more help but if I think of anything I'll get back.
"Computer Help" is about as big a lie as "the cheque is in the post."
Gavin Estler
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anniel
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Greysts,
Thanks so much for your reply. My husband says we have such a cable and we will use that method to transfer the files. Then I shall start dealing with this CD writer's inability to recognise my MP3 discs. I would never have bought another Sony writer as I never though much of my last one.....but you know how it is,it was preloaded on my new PC.
And ofcourse I never knew that XP had no ASPI layer, which many of those on music forums say is the case.
The thought of downolading this Aspi and then harming my PC worries me. Maybe I am too cautious.
I do not know how I would function without you, Joe, Jonny, Bricat and all thother experts on here...once again thanks so much.
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greysts
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I am not convinced that your problem lies with your hardware. A modern, new CD writer should have no problem in recognising any format. I would be more inclined to look at your burning software. I pulled the following off the Nero Help files and it suggests that because of the compression ratio used in MP3 you need to reduce the disc speed. It also says that it will only work in Win95, 98, and NT which accords with your advice about XP.
MP3 audio files (extension .mp3) have become one of the most common file formats of the Internet community if compressed audio data is to be transmitted. That's why Nero now supports burning of MP3 files. These files can now be dragged and dropped into Nero audio compilations just like wave files (.wav) or audio tracks (.cda).
Nero is able to burn MP3 files on the fly, which means that you do not have to convert them first in wave format, or to store the uncompressed audio data into a cache file before burning them. The maximum burning speed for MP3 files depends highly upon the speed of your processor, since uncompressing MP3 files requires a great deal of floating point operations. As a rule of thumb, a 100 Mhz Pentium processor is capable to uncompress MP3 data at about 2x speed. A faster 250 Mhz Pentium II processor should be able to decode MP3 data at 4x or even faster. MP3 files can currently only be played under Windows 95, 98 and NT.
MP3 files from the Internet may be sometimes damaged. These problems might cause crackling noises. If such damaged MP3 files are dragged into a Nero audio compilation, Nero will then display a warning. There will be another warning in the Nero's log file telling, that Nero lost synchronisation within the MP3 file. There might also be MP3 files (extension .mp3) that cannot be decoded by Nero at all. Such files are probably either severely damaged or contain another audio file format like MPEG 2.0 or any other unsupported sound format. Nero's MPEG3 library currently supports only standard MP3 files (that means ISO MPEG 1.0 layer 3, 44.1 kHz, 16 bit, stereo).
Having said that I found this on the web which appears to be MP3 to CD burning software. You might want to try it.
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bricat
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or you could try THISfree one. I haven't tried this one though. so I don't know if it is any good or not.
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rolo
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Or this one works a treat. Flawless cd's every time and rediculously easy to use!
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anniel
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It is nearly 10pm and I am no further forward.
The Evesham technician could not solve the problem. He got me to uninstall Pinnacle and advised me to try using the XP inbuilt Burner and to ring again tomorrow if not successful. I had even gone out and bought a couple of better quality CDs in case that was the problem. No joy. The same result..."please insert a disc" when it was already in there.
I then read the advice from Nero kindly provided by Greyst, so decided to install Nero6 on a trial basis. It did not work as the disc still was not recognised.
I would try out the other programmes mentioned, but am worried that there is a problem with XP somewhere.....I read that XP has no ASPI layer (whatever that is) and this can cause a problem with recognition.
Can I insist that Evesham come out as the PC is less than a week old and has a 3 yr. guarantee, with 1 year on site tech help.....I think I am going to have to be firmer tomorrow when I ring up!!
Any other ideas, folks?
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bricat
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have a read of THIS
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nirvana
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Anniel, can we assume that you have put the discs back into your old p.c. or a dvd player and that they are recognised?
When you put any c.d. into the drawer and close it, whether it be blank or otherwise XP should, after a few seconds, open up a box asking what you want to do. This should let you know if there is anything on the disc.
Alternatively, go to Start, My computer, then right click on CdDrive, then choose Explore. If the disc wasn't finalised then I don't think it will be recognised as the p.c. is searching for the end.
Try putting in a blank disc and see if there is any difference.
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anniel
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Nirvana, the full mp3 discs were played on the old PC before we set up the new one.
The new one will not recognise the blank CD when I try to write to it. This am when I switched on there was a balloon message saying I had music files ready to write to CD. I tried using a blank, new Philips CD. Message was "The disc in the drive is not writable or is full. Well it is a new CDR and therefore should be writable and is empty.
I did as you said and under Explore it had the files I was trying to write plus a picture file that the techie from Evesham was using to see if the device worked. Does this give any more clues....You guys have more ideas than the Evesham techie!
I am about to ring Evesham for the third time.
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anniel
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Well, I spoke to Evesham and after the techie had me doing the same things as yesterday's man, he decided that the CD Writer is faulty!!
So they are sending an engineer out on Monday to replace it. I asked for a different of writer as I have no faith in Sony, but he said they could only replace it with the same make and model.
I told him I was a member of a very highly thought of web forum with loads of experts and that Evesham had better get this problem solved or their name would be mud! ..I am sure I impressed him..LOL!
So you will not hear from me about this problem until after next Monday....in the meantime another round of applause and hearty thanks to you all.
In the meantime my other problems will appear elsewhere!
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