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McDanger
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AVI Conversion to CD
      #12233 - Fri Sep 26 2003 04:35 PM

I noted a letter in Issue 65 in the Can you help section from a guy asking if there was a better way than using Nero to convert downloaded AVI files onto CD without loss of quality. I wouls agree with this guy that Nero reduces the quality in the conversion process.

I do not see any suggestions to thin in issue 66 and wondered in anyone had a better solution?




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Re: AVI Conversion to CD [Re: McDanger]
      #12295 - Fri Sep 26 2003 10:21 PM

When you convert AVI to MPEG you will always lose some quality, some programs more than others. I prefer to use TMPGEnc, which is available for free from dvdhelp. They also offer tutorials on how to convert.
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Re: AVI Conversion to CD [Re: Sgt_Bilko]
      #12380 - Sat Sep 27 2003 12:11 PM

Thanks - I use TPMGEnc However, I am not criticising the loss of quality from AVI to MPG. It is more the loss of quality to VCD in the burn process. Mpegs are much greater quality when veiwed on a PC than a TV.

It is perhaps the bit rate of a TV versus a PC i dunno. But wondered if there was a better burn process than Nero which minimisd the quality loss?



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Re: AVI Conversion to CD [Re: Anonymous]
      #12441 - Sat Sep 27 2003 07:20 PM

I don't find Nero loses quality when burning vcd's. Make sure you don't use too high a burn speed (x8 max) and you don't use your computer for anything else. If you already do that, then I don't know what else to try.
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Re: AVI Conversion to CD [Re: McDanger]
      #13301 - Thu Oct 02 2003 12:55 PM

My reply to this was printed in issue 67, but was heavily edited to save on space.

If you are interested, here is the full un-edited email I submitted to reader-helps-reader:

In response to Alan Forster's question in Web User
issue 65 (page 49):

If you are saving your AVI files to a data CD, there
should be no loss in quality. The file on the CD is
exactly the same as the file on your hard drive.
However, very few DVD players (such as those from KiSS
Technology, or a modded Xbox) can play AVI files
from a data CD.

Therefore I expect what you are actually doing is
using Nero to make a Video CD. The video on a VCD is
in a different format to an AVI file, therefore Nero
has to re-encode the video. Nero's internal encoder
unfortunately does not give the highest quality
results.

You have several better options available to you:

1. If your PC's graphics card has a TV out, you can
use your PC to play the video on your TV.
See
http://www.movieking.co.uk/visitors/television.html

2. Since you have a broadband connection, why not
download VCD images instead of AVI files? These
downloads comprise a binary image of the disc (a BIN
file), and a cuesheet that tells your burning software
how it should burn the image (a CUE file). Although
sizes are generally larger than AVI files, the image
can be burned straight to disc with no re-encoding
necessary.
(You can check if your DVD player supports the higher
quality Super Video CD format at
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers)

3. If you still want to re-encode your AVI files,
there are other programs available, e.g. TMPGEnc
(http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html), that give better
results than Nero. A beginners guide to making your
first VCD using TMPGEnc can be found here:
http://www.movieking.co.uk/guides/firstvcd.html



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