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spynka
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Unscrupulous ISP's
      #103055 - Mon Aug 30 2004 12:36 PM

Not a day goes by when the online community is not subjected to attack from viruses, trojans, rediallers and spam etc. And, we are constantly reminded about the strides being made by Governments and ISP's in this unceasing battle. Yet, i am appalled by the seeming indifference and contempt show to user's by the ISP's themselves when forcing unwanted products such as RealPlayer onto user's with no other alternative than to accept or find another ISP. To be fair to AOL they do give their user's the choice of whether they want RealPayer or not. But if a user does decide to un-install then they are subjected to a reminder to reinstall everytime they wish to go online. Is this fair? In the case of Quicktime Player they are warned that it's removal will damage other programs if un-installed? Why can't we the user be given the right to decide what programs are on our PC.s. It is after all we the user who pays the bills and not the current practice of being force fed programs we may or may not want by ISP's.


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Re: Unscrupulous ISPs [Re: spynka]
      #103072 - Mon Aug 30 2004 02:18 PM

There are plenty of ISPs around that don't insist on particular software being installed (I've been with several different ISPs over the years - Pipex(yuk), WordOnLine/Tiscalli(yuk), BTOpenworld(yuk), PlusNet, and Netvigator) and none has insisted on installing any particular software (except for the essential modem drivers).

You, the user, do have the right to decide what programs are on your PC. If you don't like a particular ISP forcing you to install a particular software package, then use another ISP.
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Re: Unscrupulous ISP's [Re: spynka]
      #103158 - Mon Aug 30 2004 07:23 PM

I don't know about AOL but I can uninstall Real and Quick Time if I wish and my ISP (NTL) doesn't force me to re-install it. BUT, and it's a very large but, if I wish to listen to the BBC on line or watch a QT movie then I'm b......d. Now I have a choice, install the software of pass on the opportunity. My choice, nobody elses.


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Re: Unscrupulous ISP's [Re: greysts]
      #104022 - Thu Sep 02 2004 11:07 AM

Just by putting that AO hell cd rom in your pc you are giving Ao hell permission to do what ever they like to your system.

I used AO hell a few years back nothing but problems,system crashes,freezes.

Got so fead up with it i change to a isp that didnt force me to put a load of there software on my pc,what a difference no more crashes/freezes.

Im not sure how AOL rates now but is it true you dont have to use the AOL CD anymore when you sign up to AOL?.




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Re: Unscrupulous ISP's [Re: barrich]
      #104056 - Thu Sep 02 2004 01:20 PM

AOL rules.

You still need the CD to install the software, unless it's already on your pc.
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Re: Unscrupulous ISP's [Re: adamnaeeni]
      #104062 - Thu Sep 02 2004 01:50 PM

spynka: What ISP are you talking about specifically?

I've only experienced Freeserve force you to install the updated version of IE - which I guess isn't bad, if you HAVE to use IE.

adamnaeeni: AOL definitely does NOT rule. Anyone who has used AOL and one other ISP will quickly realise that.


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Re: Unscrupulous ISP's [Re: spynka]
      #123976 - Sun Oct 31 2004 03:56 PM

The reason that I left AOL was their insistance that I installed bespoke AOL software on my system. I would probably still be with them if AOL had allowed me to use third party software to connect.

There are plenty of ISPs available which do not insist on specific software being loaded on your system in order to connect to use the services that you are paying for.




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