thanks for the advise Jim,

I know publisher isn't ideal but when I started I knew nothing about html or web building but did know a little about publisher so when i jumped into the sea atleast I had a pair of arm-bands on. Even if they aren't very good ones. Now I've learnt a little I do intend to look at a proper editer but they all seem to cabbage my head. I have full licensed verions of namo web editor, dreamweaver, and a few others. I think the reason I havent tried them yet is that with publisher I just drop things where i want them and thats exactly where they appear. With other programs I see lots about creating frames and layers which i have tried once or twice but things end up all over the place.

I have updated the site a little now since my last post and it seems to be a little bett AND I've managed to get it working in multiple browsers not only IE so it is improving, think its just gonna take a little time.

Thanks again

craig