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ourstanley
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You heard it here first.
According to Secunia AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition 8.x is on the way as it is now included in their database. This vulnerability report for AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition 8.x contains a complete overview of all Secunia advisories affecting it. You can use this vulnerability report to ensure that you are aware of all vulnerabilities, both patched and unpatched, affecting this product allowing you to take the necessary precautions.
-------------------- ESET Smart Security - Maxthon Browser - Calendar of Updates - Folding@Home - RSS Bandit - HostsMan - Malwarebytes Anti-Malware - Glary Utilities - Revo Uninstaller - Secunia PSI
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Delgado
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Its been announced from Grisoft that AVG 8 Free will be available for download from tomorrow-24 April.
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ourstanley
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AVG 8.0 Free
-------------------- ESET Smart Security - Maxthon Browser - Calendar of Updates - Folding@Home - RSS Bandit - HostsMan - Malwarebytes Anti-Malware - Glary Utilities - Revo Uninstaller - Secunia PSI
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FifeFlyer
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Installation procedure for anyone that's unsure :
As AVG 8.0 is an Anti-virus AND an Anti-spyware product , previous version/s of both AVG products must be removed from your pc first , in order to complete a successful installation. You can do this manually using add/remove programs , however it's much easier done by downloading the AVG 8 installation file from ourstanley's post above and running the file. During the installation process you will get the choice to allow the set up to automatically remove the older versions for you. Once the set up is complete your pc will require a reboot after which it's advised to check for updates to the program.
Hope this helps.
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George
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It most certainly does help FifeFlyer. Thank you.
Thanks also to our stanley, I went looking for v8 free this morning, could I hell find it, maybe I was too early.
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greysts
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I am just running a complete scan on both my Vista laptop (which has the paid for version of AVG) and my desktop (the free version). The laptop has so far been running for 45 minutes and has scanned 1,047,034 objects!! Now I know I haven't got over a million files on that machine so it is clearly scanning every single entry in the registry along with files, directories and who knows what else. The desktop scan has been running for 21 minutes and has so far scanned 705,045 objects.
The Vista scan has found nothing so far but the desktop scan appears to found loads of adware and tracking cookies.
I shall await with interest the final result.
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FifeFlyer
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greysts , my first scan , "the whole computer option" , took 1hr 48 mins and scanned 720,052 objects. Nothing found.
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greysts
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The laptop has just completed. 1,139,076 objects scanned, no infections but 80 warnings - all tracking cookies. 1 hour 29 minutes. Still waiting for the desktop.
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FifeFlyer
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Scan 2
Slight difference : took 10 minutes longer and scanned 720,684 objects. Warnings count : 217. mostly Internet Explorer Active X compatibility and a few Firefox cookies.
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Joe_London
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Just had a look at the download size, 40 plus MB. Our options are narrowing now that they appear to have discontinued the separate antiSpyware programme.
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greysts
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I had to go to bed before the scan finished on the PC! It had got to 2 hours and 25 minutes before I cancelled.
One thing to note. Unless you change the settings before you start the scan, it will automatically fix everything it thinks are dangerous programmes. I have CrossLoop installed and when I cancelled the scan and checked the log it had moved two of the components to the virus vault! It wouldn't even let me re-install the programme because every time I tried, AVG spotted the two files and blocked them. In the end I had to stop the AVG service whilst I re-installed CrossLoop and then modify AVG to tell it to ignore them when doing the next scan.
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FifeFlyer
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Our options are narrowing now that they appear to have discontinued the separate antiSpyware programme.
Yes i would agree there Joe , although in my case the program only ever seemed to find harmless cookies ( guess that's a sign of a clean machine ) i'm not convinced marrying the antivir and antispy into one package is the way forward. I'm now thinking this may be the reason that the scanning in version 8 is taking double the time of the stand alone apps. ( does it require two sets of signatures ?? ) I will also miss some of the handy "tools" that came with the antispy , for example the LSP Viewer and the list of currently active connections.
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George
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If it's of interest to anyone using Spyware Blaster, I picked this up from another forum where a member had e-mailed AVG regarding a conflict with AVG 8 and Spyware Blaster.
Reply from AVG:
Dear Sir/Madam,
thank you for your email.
According to your e-mail, we would like to inform you with that, the situation, which you have described is most probably really caused by using Spyware Blaster security application on your computer, which contains "immunize" feature. This feature is causing that, it will overwrite mentioned ActiveX registry entries by it's own values to avoid some spyware to overvrite these registry keys by malicious values. However, because the Spyware Blaster is overwriting the same registry values as malware, it is very hard to recognize, which values are overwritten by Spyware Blaster and which by real malware, therefore these registry entries are detected as infected. Generally (not even by our company), the use of more than one security system under the same operating system is NOT recommended because of possible conflict in their main parts, usually in the resident scanning system, etc. It could, unfortunately, cause unexpected failures to your system.
The situation, which you have described is caused by incompatibility between AVG and Spyware Blaster security application on your computer and we would like to recommend you to uninstall Spyware Blaster and all the other security applications from your computer (if you are using any) to avoid possible conflict situations between AVG and the other software.
We would like to inform you with that, if you will use AVG Anti-Virus network edition 8.0 on your computers and if it will be fully updated, then your computer will be protected against all of the latest viruses, spyware, trojan horses and the other malware.
For more information about the situation, which you have described, we would like to reccommend you to visit our FAQ on the following web page: FAQ
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding, it is appreciated.
Answers to the most common questions can be found here as well: avg.com
Best regards,
David Streichl AVG Technical Support
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FifeFlyer
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If it's of interest to anyone using Spyware Blaster,
Indeed it is , and thanks for your post George. I've tested this out and it is indeed the case. First of all i checked all SpywareBlaster's protection was enabled and then ran AVG. It found a list of Internet Explorer activeX's and identifies them as threats. When these were moved to the virus vault it conflicted with the protection for I.E. within SpywareBlaster , with the result the status of it's protection changed to partially enabled. However as this problem only affects I.E. protection in SpywareBlaster i've no intention of uninstalling S.B. as i feel it's still a useful application which provides other useful tools.
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Joe_London
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Yes, thanks for the information George, we will have to consider this situation carefully as there seems to be some issues with this product.
See here: http://www.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1214#faq_1214
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Joe_London
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Hi FifeFlyer,
The response from AVG says the "immunize" feature in Spywareblaster causes conflicts and then recommends the complete removal of Spywareblaster.
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We would like to inform you with that, if you will use AVG Anti-Virus network edition 8.0 on your computers and if it will be fully updated, then your computer will be protected against all of the latest viruses, spyware, trojan horses and the other malware.
Does the other malware include bad ActiveX I wonder, effectively making spywareblaster redundant if you use AVG8? Or is it OK without the "immunize" feature?
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FifeFlyer
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Joe , it only affects the protection for Internet Explorer and even then it's only partially disabled. In my case it has 190 items that have protection disabled. There is still quite a number of items that are still protected . Obviously as AVG updates are released this number may change.  Restricted sites and Mozilla Firefox protection is unaffected .
Forgot to add Joe , after running AVG and removing the said "offenders" , you can go back and re immunize in SpywareBlaster and you will again have full protection . Obviously when you run AVG the next time you will be faced with the same problem. Have to say......well i'm just wondering ..... AVG has conflicts with SpywareBlaster AND Spysweeper........mmmmmm.
Edited by FifeFlyer (Tue Apr 29 2008 11:34 AM)
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Joe_London
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Thanks for that info FifeFlyer.
I will download the new AVG later when I have time but I'm not a great fan as you know of these combined suites. This one at least doesn't have the firewall bundled so it may be OK. I know you've not had much evaluation time yet but have you formed an opinion yet or is the jury still out?
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FifeFlyer
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have you formed an opinion yet or is the jury still out?
Honestly not sure yet. Like you I've never really been a fan of combined suites , my reasons being that most ,if not all of these suites (a)cost money , and , (b) are resource hungry. However as I'm a fan of AVG and it's free I'm prepared to be open minded. It consists of an Antivirus , Antispyware , a link scanner ( similar to MacAfee's site advisor ), a resident shield and the customary E-mail scanner. It also allows for automatic updates. All in all a quite generous package and i feel it's certainly worth a try. At the end of the day it can be as pretty as it likes but the "proof of the pudding " will be down to how it performs , or doesn't. As it will take time to evaluate I'm going to stick with it , and the other apps i use ( eg SpywareBlaster ). I will remove any other apps that are said to conflict with AVG as and when i have total confidence in it. Early indications are , for me at least , that this is the way i think it will go. 
Final thought.......initially scanning does seem to take a long time , for me 1hr 45 mins .However in saying that if was running the independent versions of AVG's antivirus and antispy they would take on average 45 to 60 mins each , so it may not be as bad as it first appears.
Hope this answers your queries Joe.
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George
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Mind if I chuck a spanner in? After visiting a couple of other forums the jury is certainly still out, two people even reckon they had to reinstall XP after AVG8 caused so much mayhem. Sounds a bit drastic but there you go.
I'm holding back, cowardly I know, 7.5 is still supported, has always looked after me and left to it's own defaults, given no problem. As well as Blaster on board, Zone Alarm was granted permission for it's Spyware Blocker in IE7 to join in with no ill effects. Then there's my alternative to IE7, BTYahoo's browser which comes with some form of Norton Anti virus built in, or at least that's what checks the webmail.
Now if AVG is upsetting Blaster I'm wondering if it will conflict with, a, Zone Alarm's Spyware Blocker and b, BTYahoo's efforts.
Decisions! Decisions! I hate change, progress is ok but change, it really can make life awkward.
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